Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscribers (personal accounts)

Tell HN: Gemini trains on chat history, even for subscribers (personal accounts)
495 by jameslk | 129 comments on Hacker News.
If you have a personal Google AI subscription, all your saved chat history in Gemini can be used for training and there is no way to opt out unless you turn off chat history or use temporary chat sessions. These chat transcripts may even be read by human reviewers. Although Google claims to disconnect them from your account when human-reviewed, they explicitly warn not to enter confidential information . https://ift.tt/e8URqc0 “[Gemini app activity] is used to improve Google services for everyone, including by training generative AI models, if your Keep Activity setting is on.“ https://ift.tt/IPA4m7B “A subset of chats are reviewed by human reviewers” https://ift.tt/cmduhA8 “Chats reviewed by human reviewers [...] are not deleted when you delete your activity. Instead, they are retained for up to three years.” https://ift.tt/aUYhy1W “Please don’t enter confidential information that you wouldn’t want a reviewer to see or Google to use to improve our services, including machine-learning technologies.” To disable their training on your chat sessions, you need to turn off “Keep Activity” in Gemini’s settings. Turning that off means you’ll lose any chat sessions after 72 hours. I learned this too late, thinking that having a paid subscription = not being turned into the product. Apparently paying is not enough. Thank you to this user on HN for mentioning in another thread: https://ift.tt/3PUTm8E

OpenAI seems to be silently re-enabling model training on Codex chats

OpenAI seems to be silently re-enabling model training on Codex chats
509 by user052919 | 151 comments on Hacker News.
My company is pretty paranoid about leaking IP to the frontier labs through prompts, so we've all been diligent about disabling data sharing in Codex/Claude Code/etc. But yesterday my coworkers and I noticed that the setting had been silently reenabled in Codex. None of us knowingly opted back in. You can check your settings here: https://ift.tt/XKrvkGH. Look for "Improve the model for everyone". Curious if this is an isolated issue or something more widespread. EDIT: looks like this has been noted before https://ift.tt/F7ofntO EDIT: apparently you can also turn off data sharing here: https://ift.tt/0oQPpRX

AI is forcing us to pay off 40 years of technical debt

AI is forcing us to pay off 40 years of technical debt
569 by pseudolus | 370 comments on Hacker News.

Stringman, an $800 open-source room scale gripper robot

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622 by nharada | 206 comments on Hacker News.

Patrick Stewart taught us what good men do with power

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461 by rhaynes | 355 comments on Hacker News.